The strange case of chronic fatigue syndrome
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If only it was that easy of changing a diet and one would improve but alas, that's not the case. Although some physicians do encourage trying out the diet they think would benefit you especially if toxic levels of metals have been found during testing. Have you looked at dr Myhill's website and her Stone Age diet? It's not suitable for everyone but she does recommends it to a lot of patients.
Me, I follow a Mediteranean diet with every now and than a meatless day, just because i feel better eating this way and it suits my husband and me.
Still you would consider me as overweight even though I eat super healthy. The use of Prednisone and being bed bound will do that to you.
I have been I'll since 1970 and was diagnosed in 1980 with ME and have been deteriorating ever since to a point that I'm bed and house bound. For me in started with Severe Chronic Epstein Barr Virus where I never recovered from.
That's 30 years of officially as a ME patient. 30 years of treatments, guinea pigging, and grief because nothing works or helps. In the meanwhile opportunistic viruses have found me thanks to my non functioning immune system and I have a whole new set of problems in addition to deal with.It's like having an illness related to HIV.
Wishing you lots of luck and success with your research. I personally don't think diet is the answer. If it was I would have found it by now because I tried out almost every diet on the planet.LikerLiker
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Hi Tink
Thank you for your input. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely don't think it's easy to change a diet, and especially not in the case of ME. There is no doubt however that diet do play some role in ME, how big on the other hand we don't know. A Mediterranean diet may also be a low carb diet and it definitely may also not be super healthy. The composition is everything.
I am very sorry to hear about your illness. It seems that Epstein Barr Virus is a part of many cases of ME. I don’t think diet is the answer either, but I would like to find out what part it plays and if perhaps a tailored diet for ME (one that can give the immune system a boost and reduce inflammation, helping the body recover) might some day be integrated as a part of a standard treatment.
The best of luck to you. Hope you recover soon.
LikerLiker
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Hey
First off, are you Norwegian? I'm just guessing, you know.. two å's in your name and all. =P
My mother has been suffering from fibromyalgia-related pain for years now, and her old doctor did nothing but prescribe strong pain medication (which more often than not does very little for that type of pain). She has recently quit the pain meds and is trying her best to get out and walk, eat enough to sustain her body and cope with the pain on her own, but without _something_ to aid her I don't see how she's going to keep this up on willpower alone for the next 30-40 years.
This is where low carb comes into play. As a Type 1 Diabetic, I'm living life on self-composed low carb. I've been trying to follow the governments nutritional advice since I got the diagnosis about 9 years ago (60-70% of energy intake from starchy carbs and grains), with the obvious result. Several near-death episodes due to hypoglycemia, every long-term (HbA1c) measurement being too high, all that. If I kept this up, even if I did my very best, I'd go blind and suffer from neuropathy and kidney failure within 10-20 years, tops.
So, as I said, I went with a new concept I like to call «I have a Brain». I can't process carbohydrates. Carbohydrates aren't essential for survival (or for anything for that matter). Ergo, I don't eat them much except for butter-steamed or gratinated broccoli, colliflower, brussel sprouts etc. I feel fantastic, I sleep like a baby, my blood glucose is stable, and I've even regained some insulin production (which is quite impossible according to established medical knowledge). Last Saturday, I was at a family get-together and I had two rather big slices of marzipan cake and no insulin to compensate. A couple hours later.. wow.. my blood glucose was a slightly low 3,7mmol/L instead of the expected 20-something!
Oh, and I also shed about 30 pounds in ~2 months this spring to get ready for summer, quite effortlessly, and my friend and workout partner shed 20. To this day, no one believes we ate all the eggs, bacon, cheese, bbq meat, cream, butter and other delicious goodness we wanted. ^^
This has all lead me to become a bit of a low carb preacher, absorbing any and all knowledge on the topic of nutrition be it from blogs, books or lectures. On the forum at http://lavkarbo.no there are several people who are now medication and pain free after switching to a low carb lifestyle, eventhough they previously spent their time taking pills and being in pain.
There is no doubt in my mind. An inflammation-lowering lifestyle will at least help my mother regain enough of her previous vitality and life quality that she can not only cope, but start enjoying life again. The trouble is, however smart a mother thinks her child might be, it's my word against the governments as well as her newly appointed government nutritionist (telling her to fill up on rice and skinless chicken).
How on earth do I go about making her see the sense in what I'm saying, when she doesn't have the energy to contemplate my explanations, let aline research the topic herself?
Anyways, back to reading your thus far brilliant blog. Keep up the good work, if we can give even one single person his/her life back through proper nutrition and common sense, then all the hard work is well worth it!
LikerLiker
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Hi there Kim!
Yup, I am Norwegian as I assume you are to.
Great story of your life there. It's always so interesting to hear type 1 diabetics improving on low carb. Unfortunately the Norwegian diabetic association is not very open to new approaches.It's true that diet does influence many fibromyalgia-like conditions and I do hope your mother might try a different approach. But how, I don't now. If her current diet isn't helping, what is there to lose by trying something new? Something you've proven to be effective for your own condition. you could try to give her some of the writings of Sofie Hexeberg. As a female doctor using low carb she might be more trustworthy.
I'm aware of lavkarbo.no. Wrote something there once as «pål».
Strange and flattering that you like the blog. I'm still very new at this. Good luck with your mother and spreading the word.
LikerLiker
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I've had ME/CFS for thirty years. I've always eaten a relatively healthy diet, meaning a minimum of processed foods, no coke etc.
A few years ago I found out about good fats and bad fats and replaced soybean oil with extra virgin olive oil. I'd never used a lot of marg. but I reduced it to zero. I can't say for sure there is a connection, but after some months of this my POTS or neurally mediated hypotension or whatever you call it (inability to stand) disappeared. ME/CFS sufferers often have this problem.
For the last 8 months I've significantly reduced carbs, cut out almost all remaining processed foods, added probiotic veggies, and made other changes. So far I can say that these all seem to be positive changes. My skin is better, my joints don't ache, I no longer get IBS attacks… In short, I have all sorts of improvements. However, so far none of this has changed my fatigue level.
ME/CFS over time seems to cause more and more problems. I lately realised how related these problems are. In my experience, low carb and other good dietary changes seem to help with the secondary problems associated with ME/CFS, but so far, it's not a cure. I'm going to keep searching!
LikerLiker
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Thank you for sharing your experience Anonymous. It is interesting that you've had improvements in some symptoms but not in fatigue level. Suck a change might still come. I wonder if the condition of specific tissues affects fatigue level and whether some sort of exercise might improve this. Exercise affects lungs, heart, mitochondrial function, enzyme levels, blood flow and more so that the metabolism runs more smoothly. But then again, exercising when feeling fatigued is not often effective. Hope your dietary changes will make your condition improve even more in time. Good luck!
LikerLiker
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I had CFS and recovered. My exposure was from a house guest, who did not tell me she had CFS — who came for a protracted visit at a time of high stress. When my fatigue became noticeable, my doctor tested me for a number of things; I had a very high Epstein-Barr reading. Learning that was important (and somewhat rare so early on because many doctors brush off complaints of fatigue, especially by women).
My very knowledgeable mother ultimately recommended Pantothenic Acid (B5), 500 mg, at least 4 times a day. After about a year taking it and a daily B-complex along with it, coincidentally, I was prescribed Cipro, a broad spectrum antibiotic. After the antibiotic treatment, the CFS seemed to taper off and vanished.
As a background matter, I had hypoglycemia for about 20 years at the point the CFS started. About 10 years after the CFS started, I progressed to T2 diabetes, which is nicely controlled by a low carb diet, following the approach in Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution book.
I'm setting out this history in the hopes it will add to your data.
Appreciate your blog greatly!LikerLiker
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Thank you for your interesting story Dallee. Good to hear you improved both CFS symptoms and glycemia issues. I don't think it unlikely that both vitamin/mineral deficiencies and poor blood sugar control have contributed to your CFS. I hope there will be more research soon on the connection between diet and CFS. There has already been some progress on the virus front, but I suspect that focusing on viral infections will not give us a complete answer.
LikerLiker
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Hmmm interesting… As a layperson I'm currently confused because I read recently what I considered (and still do) a very solid criticism of Gary Taubes's book. Do you mind to share your opinion about this particular piece: http://weightology.net/?p=265
LikerLiker
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Hi Daniel!
It is not difficult to see how, as a lay person, one might be confused by all this. I think the most difficult thing for lay people is to differentiate between good and bad arguments, to spot bad arguments and flawed logic as well as spot the times when information is given that seem like an argument, but is far from it.
Krieger has done some good scientific work in his career. In one meta-analysis he illustrated how; “Low-carbohydrate, high-protein diets favorably affect body mass and composition independent of energy intake, which in part supports the proposed metabolic advantage of these diets.”
Krieger, like most other scientists in the field still uses the calorie hypothesis in an inaccurate way, which was the point of my last post.
I do not have the time to comment on every argument made by Krieger. I commend him for much of his work, but the GCBC critique is horrible reading. I must admit that I just lost most of the respect I had for him. I thought he was more of a scientist.
He disregards important physiological mechanisms and as mentioned uses thermodynamics incorrectly. The energy density hypothesis he mentions is not a good hypothesis at all and he seem to be using effects or lack of effects by underreporting by overweight people as a universal argument that trumps all data that doesn’t add up.
I cannot and should not convince you of Krieger’s faults. I would advise you to read the comments below his post as well as other blogs and literature that can shed some light on the issues that are being discussed. Only then can you yourself critically evaluate Krieger’s writings.
LikerLiker

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